commit 6b1073172d2e4a0a3d744a67617422b0c71bf949
parent cb3d853a8567c50719025d516b30c5a15b8e1757
Author: Bob Haugen <bob.haugen@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 17:05:17 -0500
Create dezentrale_deliberate_unclarity
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+[9:28:19 AM]Chris :
+we would like to see how far we can get without starting to track hours, like in the world out there
+that we are trying to escape from (or some of us)
+[9:47:24 AM]Bob Haugen:
+I was asking in terms of tracking percentage of meals cooked vs percentage of cooking done.
+I think needs to be cooking done.
+[9:48:00 AM]Chris :
+percentage of cooking done, is what we are thinking currently
+[9:48:18 AM]Lynn Foster:
+ok let's try it out
+[9:48:23 AM]Chris :
+and tracking amount of meals served seperately
+[9:54:22 AM]Bob Haugen:
+How do the ingredients get tracked now? and how do you think you want to track them in OCP?
+[9:54:51 AM]Chris :
+we could track them like the base expenses
+it feels wrong to have it in the same "base cost categorie, but I can't think of why it should be different
+[10:03:52 AM]Bob Haugen:
+Would you want to track the consumption of ingredients and other inputs in any detail? Or just that
+somebody bought something for the collective for X amount of money and you don't care what?
+[10:04:44 AM]Chris :
+I think we should start as generic as possible and get more detailed only when needed
+at the beginning we could try not to care
+[10:10:55 AM]Lynn Foster:
+so let me try to summarize:
+- week of meals
+- cooking % contribution (maybe separate, maybe goes into week of meals)
+- purchase contributions from people's pockets
+- purchases by the collective
+[10:26:14 AM]Bob Haugen:
+is cleaning a percentage of the week's cleaning, too?
+[10:26:19 AM]Chris :
+yes
+[11:42:49 AM]Lynn Foster:
+so bob and i on our walk couldn't think of a clean way to do the cooking and cleaning as all exchanges -
+so we're back to a process that creates x meals in a week, and then some type of exchange where people
+use x % of the meal offerings
+[11:44:34 AM]Bob Haugen:
+Could have one weekly collective work process with cooking and cleaning both as percentages
+[11:44:39 AM]Chris :
+or can we track two things, the cooking and the amoutn of meals, separately
+?
+[11:44:51 AM]Bob Haugen:
+all on one page, along with the number of meals served
+[11:45:50 AM]Lynn Foster:
+well, you could create the process for the next week during the meeting, and people can enter whenever they want
+[11:46:04 AM]Bob Haugen:
+Put one collective work process out for every week
+people can enter their percentages when they know them
+[11:46:17 AM]Chris :
+ok, let's try it that way
+ok
+[11:46:30 AM]Bob Haugen:
+somebody can enter the number of meals served
+the eating is a little hazier for me
+but all of that other stuff can go on one page
+[11:47:14 AM]Chris :
+ok, sounds like what we would be looking for as our current ideal vision
+11:47:54 AM]Bob Haugen:
+everything else, the cooking, cleaning and meals served, all on one page
+we're still thinking about the eating
+but I can try an experiment later today in testocp and you can look at it
+[11:48:39 AM]Chris :
+the eating doesn't need to be related, I guess, as funny as it sounds
+it is a separate revenue, basically
+[11:49:24 AM]Lynn Foster:
+the eating will be related because the exchange will track back to the process that created the weekly meals
+[11:49:29 AM]Bob Haugen:
+the eating can be related to the meals output as an exchnge
+[11:49:33 AM]Lynn Foster:
+process then exchange, related
+[11:49:42 AM]Bob Haugen:
+yes, what Lynn said
+[11:51:38 AM]Lynn Foster:
+is food included in the payment for a room?
+[11:51:41 AM]Chris :
+it is not inlcuded
+[11:51:55 AM]Bob Haugen:
+ok,, so it is paid for?
+[11:52:05 AM]Chris :
+yes
+[11:52:16 AM]Bob Haugen:
+then it's an exchange, economically
+all fits (I think)
+11:53:56 AM]Mario:
+what do you see as cooking? breakfast, lunch, dinner? So three meals a day?
+[11:54:25 AM]Chris :
+doesn't matter, because we do percentages
+[11:54:32 AM]Lynn Foster:
+> Chris
+> either as a contribution that they make at some point
+could be either work or financial contribution?
+[11:54:36 AM]Chris :
+basically, this is left deliberately unclear
+[11:55:11 AM]Bob Haugen:
+I am warming up to the deliberate unclarity
+[11:55:24 AM]Lynn Foster:
+:smile:
+[11:55:33 AM]Bob Haugen:
+different attitude than other groups we've worked with
+
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